Haha, there’s still things embedded deep in code and in CPUs that go way back to the 80s. If only y’all knew. It’s all shit built on top of older shit, built on top of even older shit with kludges and hacks to glue it all together. Know why Windows has five different ways to access the same setting? Because if they get rid of the older methods, they break a ton of other shit that depends on it too. A house of cards or a Jenga tower.
A modern PC can STILL natively boot a DOS floppy from 1986 in legacy BIOS mode because of this.
Theres also examples in the corporate world where some companies are STILL running 70s mainframes, and use shiny new PCs as front end terminals that just connect to the same old backend.
The control panel peaked at windows 7 though
everything Windows peaked with Windows 7.
Imma gonna stop you there and say the peak was Windows 2000.
Windows 2000 was definitely peak, for its time.
but Windows 7 eclipsed it, and remains the best microsoft OS… I will fight and die on this hill <3
If we ignore the spontaneous BSOD, Windows 98 had the best performance among all systems lol
Seriously, each new windows update just adds a fresh new coat of paint on top, as if to make finding the actually useful win 7 and xp menus, that are still there, harder.
Linux Mint feels to me like what windows 10/11 should’ve been
ISA still exists on new, modern hardware.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/isa-slot-tpm-soundblaster-header-pc
This is super interesting and I had NO IDEA! Makes me very curious how much more efficient an entire fresh start might be with new tech.
Yeah I can’t even think of any recent CPUs that aren’t based on previous designs. Even Apple’s new M1 is an ARM derivative, which itself is based on an ancient computer from the 80s known as the “Acorn”.
It’s a bit poetic. They were directly competing with Apple at the time, and Acorn named themselves such so that they would appear in front of Apple in the phone book. Of course, they haven’t existed in a long time, but 35-40 years later, Apple decides to use the great-grandson of Acorn’s CPU in their new products.
This is one of the reasons why Linux doesn’t have a stable in-kernel API (or ABI for that matter): https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst
CPU architecture wise, you can see the difference between cluttered, old x86 and ARM or even RISC-V chips. They just run so much more efficient, as you can tell with your phone lasting a day or two, or apple silicon consuming a fraction for the same performance.
An example for the ancient backend would be the flight pathing system DAL. (Wendover video)
Fresh starts are always tempting, but they mean throwing out a ton of babies with that bathwater. Re-making old mistakes and solving them with fresh kludges in your nice, new, clean solution.
Like everything else in engineering, it’s a balancing act.
Yeah, just don’t look deeper into symlinks in NTFS . And don’t look for extended file attributes in task scheduler.
Hell, the world still runs on an instruction set first designed for a 1976 CPU
Neanderthal Technology File System
Not That Fresh System
It’s newer than FAT (1977)
But they change UI design every time Bill farts
The guy in charge of thinking of a new acronym probably retired 10 years ago.
There’s actually a retired microsoft engineer who makes very interesting videos about these kinds of things: https://www.youtube.com/@DavesGarage
It was probably Dave or somebody he worked with lol. Super interesting videos talking about tech stuff, windows, and what MS was like during his time
Never name anything with “New” in the name, it will look silly after a few years.
Join Ext4!
Or APFS
It’s open source too
I lean more towards butter
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You’re right.
That’s weird because I still remember the keynote where it was announced and I use an OS lib on Linux that I was sure was maintained by Apple.
Why didn’t they still not roll it out for general userbase?
Edit: Confused it with Microsofts new fs.
They did.
It’s up to OS developers to implement it or not on their OSes
I use libsfapfs on Linux, but as always when Apple does anything open source, the Linux community hates it
Darwin WebKit Swift and its compiler APFS ALAC …
The only widely used open source project from Apple that I know is CUPS
The only things in macOS that are not open source are related to its GUI.
But you know… Apple bad as usual
As a developer, most of Linux users I know develop in Java and dual-boot on Windows to play games.
Yeah, new technology because it was the file system for Windows NT, which originally stood for… Windows New Technology.
Later Microsoft decided to just use NT as a moniker without any indication of it’s origins.
Me and my mates used to say it was short for “Not Tested”. Oh, how we laughed
how dare you bring this common sense to the guffahery!
New York be like:
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ReFS is a thing, but apparently not intended as a replacement (?)
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/refs/refs-overview
Apparently Microsoft is going to move win 11 to refs but idk when. For all we know it might be in windows 12 only
Good to know.
Wasn’t that supposed to be come out with Longhorn? Wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for it.
Hey! 30 isn’t that old… Right?
New? Still can’t read ext4 fs.
It was new at the time. Anyway, what is the best file system to use nowadays? zfs?
I think zfs is very popular with the honeserver crowd, but its not worth the hassle for desktop use. If you want something more fancy than ext4 there is btrfs which lets you take snapshots and checksums the data to detect corruption
ZFS is brilliant and all, as long as you only add disks, too bad if you want to rearrange your disks, you have to buy a new set of disks and move the data.
Btrfs is much better for home use, combine your old 3, 4 and 8tb disks into one, buy a new 16tb disk you add it and remove the 3tb disk.
Depends on usecase. Just works: ext3/4.
