• JohnBoBon@lemmy.world
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    My teachers were pretty cool and they made sure to refute any positive spins people tried to attribute to slavery. Some kids came in thinking slave owners treated their slaves just like family, and the teachers shut that right down.

    I’m worried about the education system. I bet those same teachers would have gotten into trouble for saying that now, being that it is apparently against the curriculum. I always thought that outside media was misleading and that education was supposed to be the truth. Now it seems like education is misleading, and it is a scary scary thing that outside media might be leaned on to learn the truth.

  • MossBear@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This neo-confederate approach to education and public policy needs to be ended swiftly.

  • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Florida is a shithole state. There will never be enough tax breaks to offset the Taliban-like human rights suppression that Republicans apparently require.

  • journey01@lemmy.world
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    How is critical race theory banned, but this shit is allowed?

    This is a rhetorical question. I know the answer…

  • KuroJ@lemmy.world
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    Ahh yes Florida, please teach me how slavery was such a beneficial thing for my race.

    I’m sure the millions of slaves that were forced to work in fields without pay, murdered, raped, and were threatened just for wanting equal rights would agree with you.

    Obvious /s

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    Universities in other states need to loudly proclaim they will not accept Florida high school graduates fed this horseshit. “Does not meet prerequisites for higher education.” You want to be Confederate Jesusland? Fine, but there’s a cost. Employers need to do the same thing.

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      This is actually a terrifying prospect that would only make the situation worse. The kids stuck there and being educated in this propaganda are the ones who will need higher education the most! It is not their fault their parents are living there. And while some parents may have a choice in the matter, many do not as relocating in the U.S. is very expensive and impractical for some families.

      I actually feel like the opposite is needed - that public universities go out of their way to accept kids who were educated in Florida in the hopes of actually being able to educate them and break the cycle that is currently feeding this wave of fascism.

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        Yeah, ungood to trap Florida kids in an echo chamber. It’s the reverse. We want them to leave and see a bigger world.

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          I absolutely see your point and agree with you. The unfortunate part is that by the time these kids graduate from highschool they have been indoctrinated. The ones I would be the most worried about aren’t going to college anyways. There should be sanctions from the rest of the country that discourages people from moving there in the first place. Sanctions that discourage having kids there. If you want a family with children then get the fuck out. Help those people get the fuck out. You’re right that we need to undoctrinate the older ones. That won’t be as affective as just stopping people going there in the first place.

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            we shouldn’t be a dictator to other Americans however i understand the sentiment. The bill will get wrapped up in courts, or it should.

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      That’s only going to hurt the kids who want out of that shithole state. They didn’t choose to grow up there. And even if it’s comparable to a hyper religious private school education, colleges aren’t blanket denying students from those, same with homeschool kids. It may be necessary to offer remedial classes, but colleges are already doing that for math.

    • Hello Hotel@lemmy.world
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      Beleaf systems like that are almost desigmed to screw people over.

      Edit: Thats too brief of an explanation, im tires and will bed.

      Edit: lol, beleaf

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      That sort of happens anyway. Kids taught creationism get laughed out of Biology 101 and have to spend some semesters passing Bio for Boneheads, where they unlearn all the creation myths and get a truth bath of evolution.

      US History is important for poly sci majors and law majors, so yeah some might have to make sure they can pass exams or explain how we were late among western nations to end slavery (and use truck systems, exploitation of new immigrants and child labor to keep the ill-gotten flavor in our gains.)

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      I’m sorry, but this is ridiculous. These high school graduates from Florida didn’t choose to live in Florida. They didn’t choose to be educated this way. So not letting them into universities is discrimination and will only make things worse. If they were let into universities, they could see how Florida taught them wrongly.

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        Their parents chose to live there, chose to give their kids poor education, and chose to elect people to do exactly what DeSantis is doing. And they’ve been making that choice for decades now. They can damn well live with the consequences.

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          The parents aren’t the kids, and it’s wrong to punish the kids for their parents actions. I am from Florida. I grew up there. I used college to get out. I’m trans and I’d probably be dead if I hadn’t left. Even when I was in school there was “lost cause” Daughters of the Confederacy bullshit snuck in the curriculum. Just because they try to brainwash the kids doesn’t mean they succeed. And I doubt they will, the internet makes that very difficult. And just because it’s in the curriculum doesn’t mean teachers won’t push back - most of them will. The kids who want out of Florida will be a self selected group who probably already got a better history education through Wikipedia than was offered in school and know that what they were taught was either incomplete or bullshit. This is why general education requirements in college exist - they address what the student may have missed in high school for one reason or another.

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          Not all parents really choose to live in a place like Florida. Sometimes they have to go where the jobs are. Maybe they can’t afford a place like California. And remember there are more people in Florida who voted for Biden than in Massachusetts.

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            And sometimes they are living there and simply cannot afford to relocate. Relocating is very expensive in the U.S., especially if you want to relocate to an area that has better education.

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      There’s a secret competition between government officials to see who can set up the most difficult material for a game of “Real news or Onion story?” that’s really getting out of hand. Southern states have comfortably secured their continuing dominance of the leaderboard and are mostly fighting among themselves for the coveted #1 spot.

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      Because Ronald Reagan convinced America that knowing things isn’t important, and that any opinion is valid regardless of how much of a dipshit you are.

    • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.world
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      Because despite appearances that are put on, the main bulk of republicans and democrats are really not very far apart. A show is created around culture war which is really not particularly cared about by either of them while the core interests that they both share - exploiting the people and maintaining the class war in favour of the bankers, hedgefunds and financial elite - are ultimately kept secure.

      Until the well-meaning liberals that continually give the benefit of the doubt to democrats wise up to this and radicalise into something further left the lack of opposition to the right will continue. Meanwhile the few dedicated and ideologically motivated actual-fascists that do get power, such as in Florida, will get to wield that power however the fuck they want as long as it isn’t affecting the economic interests of the previously mentioned groups belonging to the wealthy ruling class.

      An enormous amount of power exists to prevent or oppose all the things that have been happening lately. The issue is ultimately an unwillingness to do it.

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        This is nonsense. There’s a massive difference between Republicans and Democrats.

        The main issue is that Republicans are, more often than not, pieces of shit who never argue in good faith, while Democrats try to act with the higher morale ground, when they really should be pushing harder against the Republican bullshit.

        Just look at their goals and agendas. What do Republicans even stand for besides bending over for money and being against “woke” culture? Sure, there are Democrats who are money whores too, but compare the two groups overall.

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          As someone that votes left, your comment still reads like someone that has faith in their representatives.

          Are republicans trash? Yes.

          But don’t, for a second, believe democrats are “of a higher moral ground”. They are human, and they are therefore just as capable of being shitbags as anyone else.

          Not trying to be pessimistic, just realistic: 99% of these people are monsters that don’t give a shit if you live or die.

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    My hope is that because this is such an obvious, stupid lie, it’ll inspire kids to question all of the other stuff in their history books too; even blue-state schools teach ridiculous lies about American history, my kids got all sorts of upbeat hokum about Columbus I had to correct them on.