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    No no, I get that US corporations ask for public land for privatized gains all the time, and keep increasing how much they ask for when they get it. The number of requests keeps going up, so the number of refusals going up isn’t shocking.

    Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million of ‘conservation’ were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source

    My point is that it’s a single metric and out of context does not actually tell you why they were threatened to begin with. I.E. maintaining the status quo does not warrant a medal. Still voting for him.

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      You could save a ton of typing if you just said you don’t like it that Biden refused the corporate land grabs.

      Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face or whatever they say 😎

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          My nose was cut off, and this meme is acting like stapling it back on deserves a medal.

          God, I hate to see how you interact with your doctors.

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      Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source

      It wasn’t a matter of ‘waiting’, as the link in your source, notes…

      In the Arctic Refuge, Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland has authorized the cancellation of the remaining seven oil and gas leases issued by the previous administration in the Coastal Plain. The leases were suspended in June 2021 following the issuance of Secretary’s Order (S.O.) 3401, which identified “multiple legal deficiencies in the underlying record supporting the leases.”

      2023 was finalization, not a last-minute “Oh, NOW I’m going to protect things”.

      Governments have intentionally slow processes.

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        Cool. So it was the status quo, and just hitting ‘undo’. Why the meme portraying that as the greatest conservation act in history? It’s disingenuous.

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          Sorry, would you prefer “Biden is on-track to unfuck more land given away by a corrupt corporate crony than any modern first-term president in history”?

          I didn’t realize that you can only claim credit for something if no one before you had ever done anything to fuck it up in the first place.

          Thanks for admitting you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, though, and were just grasping at straws with that “Well, he didn’t do it until 2023!” bit.

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            Sorry, I just realized - that quote you gave, claiming was in my sourced link… isn’t. I just re-read it and did multiple searches. After googling your quote, I found it on a separate doi.gov article. So, thanks for mocking me for something you didn’t check. You also highlighted that he had from 2021 as well, so I don’t even know why you’re using that as an argument. He still had 2 years.

            But you’re right. When I saw that like 85% of the argument of this claim is for hitting ‘undo’, I assumed that the 2023 date was due to political delay for posterity, not political delay per the status quo. My bad.

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              as the link in your source, notes…

              But the largest land conservation move this year was the administration’s return to President Barack Obama’s National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPR-A) Integrated Activity Plan for the Western Arctic, which closed nearly 11 million acres to oil and gas leasing. While this was not a new protection under Biden, it restored protections that were removed under the Trump administration.

              Thanks for not checking your own attempt at a ‘gotcha’.

              You also highlighted that he had from 2021 as well, so I don’t even know why you’re using that as an argument. He still had 2 years.

              … Jesus Christ. I legitimately can’t tell if you’re being serious right now.

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                Dude, THAT quote is in my link. Yeah.

                In the Arctic Refuge, Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland has authorized the cancellation of the remaining seven oil and gas leases issued by the previous administration in the Coastal Plain. The leases were suspended in June 2021 following the issuance of Secretary’s Order (S.O.) 3401, which identified “multiple legal deficiencies in the underlying record supporting the leases.”

                THIS ONE wasn’t.

                Edit: OK, I see what you’re saying now, but you removed the OTHER hyperlink from that quote to make it readable, and there are no less that 40 links in this article. My apologies for not clicking through each and every linked article before responding. Jesus.

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                  My apologies for not clicking through each and every linked article before responding. Jesus.

                  Perhaps just the ones relevant to the point you were making would have been a wise choice.

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                    YOU used that as a counter-claim that it was done 2023 because the leases were suspended in 2021… as a claim for 2023 being a record year? Obviously I’m not pre-researching potential counter-claims to my argument that don’t make any sense.

                    Now, to clarify, are you arguing that the 11 million acres were ACTUALLY protected in 2021 (making the meme false) or are you saying that he DIDN’T wait, but 2023 is the earliest it could have happened? Because in that case, it would seem like you should’ve posted something further along the timeline than from Jan 2021 to July 2021.